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PostSubject: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:55 am

I was wondering how people felt about Mrs. Oleson showing those pictures of female figure models to the class. I personally think it was commendable of her to try to get her students to be more broad-minded. I think that one father who complained to her was over-reacting. There is a difference between art and "dirty" pictures in my opinion. Any other thoughts on this?
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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:17 am

Perhaps to people in Walnut Grove it seemed that way, but I don't think it's a bad thing that Mrs. Oleson tried to expand their horizons a bit. I don't feel it was the best use of the students' time considering a lot of them would probably become farmers or teachers, but it wasn't pornography.

Don't forget, people back then lived in a time when women covered their heads to protect themselves from the sun and wore full length dresses. In general, they had a great deal more respect for their bodies back then. A woman who was scantily clad usually worked in a saloon and wasn't a respected member of society.

Whether that's right or wrong is another discussion, but that's how it was.


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:31 pm

That scene was hilarious! The look on Albert's face was so funny. ROTFL


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:50 am

I liked Albert's scheme to get out of wearing black socks.


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:29 pm

Haha, yeah that was pretty funny too.


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:41 pm

bethandmanly wrote:
Perhaps to people in Walnut Grove it seemed that way, but I don't think it's a bad thing that Mrs. Oleson tried to expand their horizons a bit. I don't feel it was the best use of the students' time considering a lot of them would probably become farmers or teachers, but it wasn't pornography.

Don't forget, people back then lived in a time when women covered their heads to protect themselves from the sun and wore full length dresses. In general, they had a great deal more respect for their bodies back then. A woman who was scantily clad usually worked in a saloon and wasn't a respected member of society.

Whether that's right or wrong is another discussion, but that's how it was.

I agree. Mrs. Oleson even talked about how schools "in a big city" would have had classes such as art appreciation and French, but it wasn't something the students were exposed to in Walnut Grove and, like Cheryl said, most of them were probably going to grow up to be farmers or teachers, etc so it might not have been practical.

It's been a long time since I've seen this episode, but at the end, doesn't Laura (or someone) say that they decided to keep a bit of the art history but that everyone voted to get rid of French class? Maybe I'm mistaken.




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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:17 pm

personally, I didn't think it was right for Mrs. Oleson to show the pictures, because they could have disturbed some of the younger children in the class. I was glad to see Laura come back to teaching at the end of the episode!
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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:10 pm

I think you're right. I know they were all for dumping French and picked up Agriculture instead.

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It's been a long time since I've seen this episode, but at the end, doesn't Laura (or someone) say that they decided to keep a bit of the art history but that everyone voted to get rid of French class? Maybe I'm mistaken.


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:29 pm

ChristinaAL wrote:
Mrs. Oleson even talked about how schools "in a big city" would have had classes such as art appreciation and French, but it wasn't something the students were exposed to in Walnut Grove and, like Cheryl said, most of them were probably going to grow up to be farmers or teachers, etc so it might not have been practical.

It sure was funny seeing Albert's attitude when Mrs. Oleson was trying to teach him French... like "Oh man! why are we doing this??!" grinsmiley

Here is a video somebody made ... a little house parody :haha:



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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:20 pm

Haha, I love that vid!! Cracks me up every time!


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:09 pm

lol that is super funny video! this episode was a good one.



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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:46 pm

Another funny scene from this episode is when Laura is upset because Almanzo doesn't care for the "cold" chicken that she made. I can't remember the name of it. After she leaves the dinner table and goes upstairs, Almanzo says, "I think I like her cinnamon chicken better." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:56 pm

Teresa wrote:
Another funny scene from this episode is when Laura is upset because Almanzo doesn't care for the "cold" chicken that she made. I can't remember the name of it. After she leaves the dinner table and goes upstairs, Almanzo says, "I think I like her cinnamon chicken better." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember that! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:58 pm

Glad I could be of assistance, Carol. LOL!!!!


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:31 am

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Another funny scene from this episode is when Laura is upset because Almanzo doesn't care for the "cold" chicken that she made. I can't remember the name of it. After she leaves the dinner table and goes upstairs, Almanzo says, "I think I like her cinnamon chicken better." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that was a good line, and a good example of writing continuity that was often missing.


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:07 pm

Teresa wrote:
Another funny scene from this episode is when Laura is upset because Almanzo doesn't care for the "cold" chicken that she made. I can't remember the name of it. After she leaves the dinner table and goes upstairs, Almanzo says, "I think I like her cinnamon chicken better." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always loved that line! I think the dinner she made was aspic or something.


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:10 pm

Lori wrote:
Teresa wrote:
Another funny scene from this episode is when Laura is upset because Almanzo doesn't care for the "cold" chicken that she made. I can't remember the name of it. After she leaves the dinner table and goes upstairs, Almanzo says, "I think I like her cinnamon chicken better." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always loved that line! I think the dinner she made was aspic or something.

I remember aspic too, and after reading the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspic I am grossed out. BTW, her chicken didn't look like that at all.


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:54 pm

I liked Laura's chicken. Almanzo can be mean! If my dad had said that to my mom.... WW3 would have broken out! lol jk, my mom would have cooked something else really fast!!!!


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:37 am

I was surprised when Laura stood up for Harriet at the end! after how mean Harriet always was to the Ingalls family when Laura was younger, I didn't think Laura would ever do something so nice for Harriet!
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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:52 pm

Teresa wrote:
Another funny scene from this episode is when Laura is upset because Almanzo doesn't care for the "cold" chicken that she made. I can't remember the name of it. After she leaves the dinner table and goes upstairs, Almanzo says, "I think I like her cinnamon chicken better." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Laura was such a baby....guess you could say it was the 10 year age difference


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:56 pm

The meal was lemon chicken with aspick and potato salad with taragon.....both of which were cold since it was hot out


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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:20 pm

Funny video. Mrs.Oleson seemed frusterated at trying to get Albert to speak french. I don't think she should have shown the nude photos.
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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:33 am

I thought it was funny that she would get upset at Willie looking at corsets but not nudes...sure it's art, but back then, nude and "naked" were probably thought of as the same in Walnut
Grove.

My daughter said Laura was wrong about her 5 borough question including Brooklyn, but they didn't always check historical things well and you never were quite sure what year it was, people aged quickly in some ways, others seemed to stay young.

The French scenes were funny and I admired Harriet for trying but it really was impractical. I also didn't understand how the uniforms got there so fast...no one could have paid for them all and I doubt Harriet had them in stock in the mercantile.
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PostSubject: Re: "Goodbye, Ms. Wilder"   Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:31 am

On TV.com they mention something similar:
"Goof: At the beginning of this episode, Laura is teaching the students about New York City, describing the five separate boroughs. She also mentions that the Brooklyn Bridge is still under construction. Assuming this episode takes place in either 1884 or 1885, both of these descriptions are inaccurate. At that time, the bridge was already complete, and the five boroughs of New York hadn't yet become merged."

I'm glad Laura was made to come back and "give it to the students" for what they were planning. It was a maturity they didn't seem to like to show in earlier episodes. I understood their stance but she should and did rise above feelings and "did the right thing".
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PostSubject: GOOF   Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:19 pm

The bridge was completed in 1883, why are they assuming that episode took place in 1884?
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