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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:20 pm

The IFSC (and his peers...Evan Lysacek has said this about Johnny) feels that Johnny does not represent the sport well. He has made what they consider to be disrespectful comments about the rather 'uptight' sport and the way it's run. He has made some media decisions that have been questionable. For example, he did a very flambouyant photo shoot in 'sexy' clothes and women's high heels. batEyes And yes, like the fur thing you mentioned Rob. Evan has stated that he appreciates that the IFSC has supported him both financially and emotionally, and will always do his best to 'represent' them positively. By the same token though, Johnny has no doubt brought some added interest to the sport, and has probably promoted more viewers. He has many followers! So it's a tough call. I'm not so sure that Johnny's choices are as major a deal to the commitee as they once used to be.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:31 pm

Johnny likes to speak his mind, and doesn't care what other people think. It's not always a bad thing. Sometimes I get a kick out of it. He's just really eccentric. He refers to himself as a diva. He LOVES to go shopping, which is okay in my book. He's a very beautiful skater, and I would be thrilled if he got the bronze medal. He's just not everyone's "cup of tea." He has a huge following online. They're called "Johnny's Angels." I've browsed through it before. It's a message board much like this one.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:34 pm

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For example, he did a very flambouyant photo shoot in 'sexy' clothes and women's high heels. batEyes

I read an interview with Johnny and came away with the impression that he wasn't exactly Duke Wayne. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:02 pm

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Johnny likes to speak his mind, and doesn't care what other people think. It's not always a bad thing. Sometimes I get a kick out of it. He's just really eccentric. He refers to himself as a diva. He LOVES to go shopping, which is okay in my book.

I couldn't believe it.....Kurt Browning was doing a commentary (not sure when this was) and when Johnny got bad scores he said, "Aw, he just needs a nice big shopping spree". OhMy I was pretty shocked Kurt said it, but I guess Johnny has kind of set himself up for the ridicule, in a way.

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For example, he did a very flambouyant photo shoot in 'sexy' clothes and women's high heels. batEyes

I read an interview with Johnny and came away with the impression that he wasn't exactly Duke Wayne. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Rob, Teresa and I were PM-ing and I wrote her pretty much the exact same thing! HeeHee
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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:25 am

That was some fine Olympic viewing tonight! Great wins and great emotion. That's what the Olympics are all about.

(I won't say who won, just in case some of us haven't seen the results yet.)
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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:30 am

It really WAS awesome this evening. From the downhill to the snowboarding.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:48 am

Yet another late night for me last night, and it will be tonight too! Ugh. But it was worth staying up for!! The half pipe is pretty exciting, and the Flying Tomato does it again!! I loved that he did his trick that only he does when he didn't even have to....he wanted to do that for his fans. He's amazing!


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:02 pm

We couldn't believe how high up Shaun got on his snowboard last night. He was at least 5 feet above everyone else. That was amazing!

Tonight I'm going to be very nervous watching the figure skating. I can hardly watch any of these events, because I'm so nervous. I'm only half peeking. I'm hoping that Apolo gets a gold this evening. I can't imagine what the parents of these athletes go through! I'm a wreck! LOL!


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:27 pm

I know what you mean Teresa....I'm a nervous wreck for them too! Now there's all this pressure on Evan to win it and he truly has been cursed with inconsistency over the years. I guess I don't have the confidence in him that everyone else has. Johnny's the same way, very inconsistent. Whereas Plushenko is pretty much always spot on, trained or not. I will admit I see a whole new Evan though...hopefully he keeps on doing what he's been doing and doesn't psych himself out! You know what would be really cool?! Evan with Gold, Johnny with silver, and Plushenko with bronze. That would turn things upside down...would be awesome. Thumbsup

This is totally screwing up my Survivor viewing tonight! We always have my parents over for that, but my mom and I really want to watch the men's skating LIVE! There's just way too much great TV these days! Yikes


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:48 pm

I still haven't watched either of the Idol episodes this week, and I'll probably wait until this weekend to watch Survivor. I'll just continue to not read the threads until I watch them. Although, I'm very curious as to what happens with Boston Rob........................


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:08 pm

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but my mom and I really want to watch the men's skaing LIVE!

Fife is crouching in readiness, but he realizes you may be talking about ska music. You know, like reggae. Maybe it's become an Olympic sport while he wasn't looking.
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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:12 pm

Oh no! I pm'd Amy about her spelling error a little while ago, but she hasn't seen it yet. Give her a few more minutes, will you Fife?


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:12 am

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Amy wrote:
but my mom and I really want to watch the men's skaing LIVE!

Fife is crouching in readiness, but he realizes you may be talking about ska music. You know, like reggae. Maybe it's become an Olympic sport while he wasn't looking.


Oh Rob, you are too funny! laugh3

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Oh no! I pm'd Amy about her spelling error a little while ago, but she hasn't seen it yet. Give her a few more minutes, will you Fife?

Thanks Teresa...I've been off all day. Wink


Oh my GOSH....just watched the men's free skate!! Awesome, awesome AWESOME!!!!! happy1 I need to get to sleep but now I'm higher than a kite! LOL!

I'm pretty unhappy about how they scored Johnny.....no, his wasn't quite as difficult but still---that was too low.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:32 am

I agree, Johnny's score was way too low, but at least the judges got it right by awarding the gold to Evan. Yay!!!!!!!!!! Honestly, even without the quad, Evan's program looked more pollished than Plushenko's. I liked the overall flow of Evan's program. He skated beautifully!! And of course it all comes down to hair style. LOL! Evan wins by a landslide.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:30 am

Plushenko is definitely an amazing skater, but the Russians have always been more technical, not necessarily as fluid on the ice. My favorite Russian mens skater, who breaks the mold on that and seems to have 'it all', is gold medalist Ilia Kulik. I agree, Evan didn't need the quad after all and just think what a bummer it would have been if he'd attempted it and fallen. Evan's mom cracks me up---I can't imagine not being there to watch my kid skate live! Yikes Whatever...everyone is different I guess. scratchead

Oh, the other Russian skaters I adored (who were fluid and the most amazing pairs couple of all time IMO), were Goordeeva and Grinkov. I can't watch a pairs event without thinking of them. I went to see them on tour several times too, and they were so unbelievably amazing. One of the men this year skated to the song they won the gold with in 94, and I was instantly 'right back there'. How I miss them. The 88 olympics really was the best....we had the battle of the Brians, Katarina Witt and Debbie Thomas (battle of the Carmens), and G&G breaking out, and blowing everyone away. Here is the 88 gold medal performance of G&G...when you watch it, you realize you just don't see pairs skating like this anymore. It was said of G&G that they skated 'as one', even way back then. They were so special.

Katia was only 16 here...(for those of you who may not know, they eventually married and had a daughter, and he died at the age of 28 from a rare heart condition No).



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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:06 am

I loved Goordeeva and Grinkov!! It was like watching a love story every time they skated. It was so tragic when he died...........and so suddenly. They were a beautiful couple.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:44 am

They sure were....it's amazing to me how popular they became in the U.S. I think part of that was not only how wonderful they were as skaters, but their love story was so beautiful. I think I've read the book "My Sergei" three times now! Love

The thing that strikes me the most, when you watch any of their old videos, is how FAST they skated and still carried out these exquisite elements, and unison that you simply do not see anymore. My mom and I both commented how we felt like even the top pairs skaters seemed kind of slow the other night. Granted, now there lifts are more complicated and the focus is more on 'tricks', but no doubt G&G could have done those too if that had been expected of them back then. Also, I find it interesting that the 'old' focus of pairs figure skating was that the male partner put the focus on the female. Sergei did that to perfection. Now, the men are as dramatic as the women, and it's become more like what we've always seen in ice dancing, where the focus is on both partners equally. I like it better the old way.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:22 pm

I've lost most of my respect for the bitter Plushenko. Have you heard the latest? It seems that he's a poor sport. In an interview, he said that if you don't do the quad, then you don't deserve a gold medal. He said that you're not a true champion. He said that they've been doing triples for 20-30 years, and it's time to step it up.

Excuse me, but it's hard enough to spin around 3 times, let alone 4. All of Plushenko's triples last night weren't that impressive. They weren't as clean as Evan's. THAT'S why you don't deserve the gold, Plushenko. Oh yeah, and your hair style is sooooooooo unattractive! That's another reason you didn't win the gold. LOL!


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:07 pm

He looked like a poor sport just standing there on the podium. He can watch the tapes and see clearly who the better skater is. It was a risk coming back, after so long off the ice, and he knew it. He needs to just accept that Evan trained ultra-hard (harder than anyone else out there, so I hear), and whatever kind of 'natural' Yevgeny might be, sometimes it takes more than just that. And yeah, I'd rather see a clean triple than a shaky quad any day. yes

Oh, and that hair!! Yikes The whole 'shaggy and unshaven' thing was not working for me. help

On another 'hair note', I thought Evan looked hilarious when he did his spins and his hair stuck up----looked just like Alfalfa, especially with that black hair! HeeHee And that's another thing, Evans SPINS were even so much nicer to watch than Plushenko's! Evan did everything better!


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:24 pm

LOL! We were laughing at how Evan's hair stuck up a little during his spins, too. I meant to say jumps, rather than spins up above. Evan's jumps were cleaner, and he landed smoother. I guess you also spin while doing the jumps. You guys know what I mean. I don't have the figure skating lingo down.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:29 pm

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The 88 olympics really was the best....we had the battle of the Brians, Katarina Witt and Debbie Thomas (battle of the Carmens), and G&G breaking out, and blowing everyone away.

Amy, I'm beginning to think you know a thing or two about figure skating.

Katarina...

That Gordeeva-Grinkov program is really beautiful. Thanks for posting it.

Ice dancing starts tonight, doesn't it? I saw Meryl Davis & Charlie White in the national championships, and thought they were really good.
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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:25 pm

I was watching the nightly news earlier, and all of Russia is upset. They think Plushenko was robbed last night. How pathetic! I wouldn't have thought that if Evan got the silver. It will be an interesting 2014 Olympics in Russia. I'm sure that they'll award quite a bit of golds in figure skating. The Russian govenment said that if they get less than 4th place in the medal count, it will be a failure for them. Right now they're in 8th place.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:41 pm

Here's an article in the online edition of Pravda. Russia is not happy with Canada. Ouch.

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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:05 pm

You know, the only sports that I've noticed Russian athletes participating in are figure skating and hockey. They really don't have any skiers. I don't think they have any snowboarders. They might have some cross-country skiers. They really need to stop complaining and whining. Don't rain on Evan's parade. He worked hard for that gold medal. They might have more snow than Vancouver when they host the next Olympics, but the last place I'd want to be is Siberia. Talk about a "cold" Olympic experience. It certainly won't feel like a warm fuzzy welcome.


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PostSubject: Re: Winter Olympics   Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:10 am

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LOL! We were laughing at how Evan's hair stuck up a little during his spins, too. I meant to say jumps, rather than spins up above. Evan's jumps were cleaner, and he landed smoother. I guess you also spin while doing the jumps. You guys know what I mean. I don't have the figure skating lingo down.

LOL, I knew you were talking about jumps, and yep---they are indeed spinning! Wink Of course, in skating speak, they call them 'rotations'. batEyes HeeHee


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The 88 olympics really was the best....we had the battle of the Brians, Katarina Witt and Debbie Thomas (battle of the Carmens), and G&G breaking out, and blowing everyone away.

Amy, I'm beginning to think you know a thing or two about figure skating.

Ice dancing starts tonight, doesn't it? I saw Meryl Davis & Charlie White in the national championships, and thought they were really good.

Rob, I fell in love with watching figure skating back when I was 15. I have been an avid spectator all these years, but darned if I can stand up on two skates! Yikes HeeHee I WISH!! But yeah, I've always been passionate about the sport. Between 1988 and 1998 or so, figure skating was at the height of it's popularity. It was marketed very well here in the states. They've really struggled with keeping this sport in the spotlight this past decade. About the ice dancing, I had no idea it was starting up already! I haven't been watching the olympics the last two nights. I like Davis and White...I think they're the ones who train here in Bloomfield Hills, right? Unfortunately they go to that school with the ugly colors that shall remain nameless. Whistle Seriously, I just don't know how you can be full time students at such a tough university, and practice all the time! Amazing!

I'm not as crazy about ice dancing as I am the other skating, but I still like to watch it if I can.

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They really need to stop complaining and whining. Don't rain on Evan's parade. He worked hard for that gold medal.

Somehow I don't think they care too much about how hard Evan worked. No Thanks for posting that article Rob. Wow, what a bunch of sore losers. Well, there again, spoken like Russians....they are all about the 'technical'....skating is FAR more than skating a clean program. Yes, you could call Plushenko's program clean, but judges aren't only judging based on that! The artistry was all Evan's, no matter how much 'flair' Yevgeny had. Evan has that too, AND he had the choreography. And whose was more solid??? Like you were saying Teresa, Plushenko's jumps just don't look as solid, and his spins aren't nearly what Evan can do. But all he and Russia are going to see is that HE landed that quad and Evan didn't. "Landing" is all that matters to them. And I agree Teresa...you wouldn't have heard USA harping on the fact that Evan won the silver if that had happened. It was a tough competition and I would have accepted it if Plushenko had won.

Wow, they really said some nasty things about Canada in that article----talk about trash talk! OhMy I feel sorry for Canada, having to deal with this now. And Evan too, that they're trying to 'take' this from him. If they only knew how bad it makes them look. Oh, and how about that comment about not understanding how any Russian athlete would want to stay there a minute longer?! scratchead Um, seriously??? This is the olympics! It's a BIG dea and an honor to be a part of itl!! That was a slap in the face to the poor athletes who are there right now. Your country should be proud of you and supportive of you, not making you feel guilty for staying! Warped! Yikes
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