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PostSubject: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyWed Jun 20, 2012 9:16 am

I always thought this was a nice article on Mary:

http://www.aph.org/museum/MaryScript.html
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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyWed Jun 20, 2012 10:19 am

Great article. How dare Rose for suggesting Laura omit Mary's story of her blindness. Laura was right when she said everything her family did had to do with Mary from that point on. Good for Laura!!


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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyWed Jun 20, 2012 11:53 pm

Yes. I think that Mary's blindness was a major issue in Laura's life. It was a little stupid from Rose to suggest that her mother must let the whole story out of her writing... Huh?

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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyThu Jun 21, 2012 2:05 pm

I think Rose was considering the marketability of a book for children having something tragic like blindness happening to one of its characters. The world of publishing, then, wasn't overall what we see now. Today's MG and tween books are filled with so much angst and conflict it's depressing. It's something I find frustrating as a writer because I don't want to write those kinds of stories.

Mary's blindness could not be taken away once it was written in. That sadness would continue throughout the books instead of being a conflict that came to an end by the last few pages of the book. I can see why Rose would have suggested it, but I'm glad Laura stuck to her guns.
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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyFri Jun 22, 2012 9:06 am

it's good laura left it in Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyFri Jun 22, 2012 10:01 am

I think the books would have been so different if Mary hadn't been blind. I'm glad Laura left it in.

I remember reading somewhere, either in a book or internet article, that the tuition for the blind college was paid for by the territory, I think. They really only needed money for expenses. This article sounds like it relied on the books for it's information. Does anyone know if they actually paid for college?


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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyFri Jun 22, 2012 11:49 pm

bethandmanly wrote:
I think Rose was considering the marketability of a book for children having something tragic like blindness happening to one of its characters. The world of publishing, then, wasn't overall what we see now. Today's MG and tween books are filled with so much angst and conflict it's depressing. It's something I find frustrating as a writer because I don't want to write those kinds of stories.

Mary's blindness could not be taken away once it was written in. That sadness would continue throughout the books instead of being a conflict that came to an end by the last few pages of the book. I can see why Rose would have suggested it, but I'm glad Laura stuck to her guns.

Well, in fact, children's books were almost all filled with anguish and sadness...Just think in Beth's illness and death in "Little Women", death of Indian Joe in "Tom Sawyer", Clara's being in a wheelchair in "Heidi", all the sad events of "Olver Twist" and "David Copperffield" and other well known classics.

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Lori wrote:
I think the books would have been so different if Mary hadn't been blind. I'm glad Laura left it in.

I remember reading somewhere, either in a book or internet article, that the tuition for the blind college was paid for by the territory, I think. They really only needed money for expenses. This article sounds like it relied on the books for it's information. Does anyone know if they actually paid for college?

I've read that Mary's tuition had been paid by Dakota territory, indeed. Rose changed the whole thing to the way we knows it, since she wanted to show an example of self-relliance. Huh? It also happened that William T. Anderson knew, by his researchs, that the Ingallses were NOT the only family living alone in Surveyor's house area...Ot seems that Rose changed the story just to fil into the "self-relliance" thing too. She wnted to show that the Ingallses didn't need anything from anybody and that they lived on their own.

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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptySun Jun 24, 2012 4:58 pm

I don't agree with Rose wanting to change things around.It's like she was "Embarrassed" of her family.


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Vanesa wrote:
bethandmanly wrote:
I think Rose was considering the marketability of a book for children having something tragic like blindness happening to one of its characters. The world of publishing, then, wasn't overall what we see now. Today's MG and tween books are filled with so much angst and conflict it's depressing. It's something I find frustrating as a writer because I don't want to write those kinds of stories.

Mary's blindness could not be taken away once it was written in. That sadness would continue throughout the books instead of being a conflict that came to an end by the last few pages of the book. I can see why Rose would have suggested it, but I'm glad Laura stuck to her guns.

Well, in fact, children's books were almost all filled with anguish and sadness...Just think in Beth's illness and death in "Little Women", death of Indian Joe in "Tom Sawyer", Clara's being in a wheelchair in "Heidi", all the sad events of "Olver Twist" and "David Copperffield" and other well known classics.

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You're right, Vanessa. I wonder any research shows why Rose didn't want Mary's blindness included. Huh?
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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptySun Jun 24, 2012 7:04 pm

bethandmanly wrote:
Vanesa wrote:
bethandmanly wrote:
I think Rose was considering the marketability of a book for children having something tragic like blindness happening to one of its characters. The world of publishing, then, wasn't overall what we see now. Today's MG and tween books are filled with so much angst and conflict it's depressing. It's something I find frustrating as a writer because I don't want to write those kinds of stories.

Mary's blindness could not be taken away once it was written in. That sadness would continue throughout the books instead of being a conflict that came to an end by the last few pages of the book. I can see why Rose would have suggested it, but I'm glad Laura stuck to her guns.

Well, in fact, children's books were almost all filled with anguish and sadness...Just think in Beth's illness and death in "Little Women", death of Indian Joe in "Tom Sawyer", Clara's being in a wheelchair in "Heidi", all the sad events of "Olver Twist" and "David Copperffield" and other well known classics.

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You're right, Vanessa. I wonder any research shows why Rose didn't want Mary's blindness included. Huh?

I agree Vanesa and Cheryl. Actually, even as child, I enjoyed stories that included angst, at least in part. Some readers thrive on that to get them through certain otherwise 'sugar and spice' stories. Maybe Rose thought she was protecting the 'innocence' of the reader, but it's just life. I'm sure Laura felt she owed it to her readers to be as authentic as possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Mary Ingall's article from blind school   Mary Ingall's article from blind school EmptyTue Oct 09, 2012 1:15 am

Good article! The only thing that bugged me was "Laura never mentions the name of the place where her father finally decided to stay put." uh, yea, she did. It seemed pretty well researched other then that.
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