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Has anyone notice that in "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style", that it looks like Laura's fighting with a mannequin for a half a second? Just before Caroline comes outside to break up the fight, there's a very, very quick facial shot of Brenda Sue as she's on top of Laura. Brenda Sue's face looks hard, expressionless...just blank, and not life-like at all, to me. So I figure it must be a mannequin. During all of the rest of the fight scene, it looks like the actress playing Brenda Sue is really doing her own scene.

I've often wondered why a mannequin for such a short shot, but I figure that the actress may not have been there during a second, third or whatever take, and they used the mannequin.

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I read someplace here that Katherine McGregor rode a little during the scene when she was on the runaway horse, and then a stunt man did the harder stuff. But I've watched the scene where "she" falls off and it always looks like a mannequin. It falls like one, it's stiff like one. No expression or anything that's life-like.

I've watched both of these scenes on slow-mo and I still say... mannequin.

Your thoughts?

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I should watch those scenes before I can comment on it, but I must say you're a good observer Thumbsup
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Thanks! grinsmiley


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PostSubject: Re: "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man   Grove - "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man EmptyThu May 17, 2007 5:00 pm

Katherine did a scene, I forget which season, but her character fell off a horse. Katherine was injured and Mrs Foster had to step in and continue the next scene of Harriet knocking on someone's door. Dean talks about this incident on the dvd's.


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PostSubject: Re: "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man   Grove - "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man EmptyThu May 17, 2007 7:18 pm

LM wrote:
Has anyone notice that in "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style", that it looks like Laura's fighting with a mannequin for a half a second? Just before Caroline comes outside to break up the fight, there's a very, very quick facial shot of Brenda Sue as she's on top of Laura. Brenda Sue's face looks hard, expressionless...just blank, and not life-like at all, to me. So I figure it must be a mannequin. During all of the rest of the fight scene, it looks like the actress playing Brenda Sue is really doing her own scene.

I've often wondered why a mannequin for such a short shot, but I figure that the actress may not have been there during a second, third or whatever take, and they used the mannequin.


I'll have to watch this scene carefully... you may be right...


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PostSubject: Re: "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man   Grove - "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man EmptyThu May 17, 2007 8:07 pm

Wow you have a great eye. I never noticed. Haha, it's funny to think about.

There is a scene from Bonanza where Little Joe falls of a cliff. It is so a dummy. It's all floppy and stuff as it's falling, lol.

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MattLabMyLove wrote:
Wow you have a great eye. I never noticed. Haha, it's funny to think about.

There is a scene from Bonanza where Little Joe falls of a cliff. It is so a dummy. It's all floppy and stuff as it's falling, lol.

Beckie

Do you know which episode of Bonanza that is?
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PostSubject: Re: "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man   Grove - "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man EmptySat May 19, 2007 6:48 pm

No they showed this scene in a commercial on TVLand, sorry. Blue

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MattLabMyLove wrote:
No they showed this scene in a commercial on TVLand, sorry. Blue

Beckie

Haha yes, that is were I saw it too!
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You get TVLand over in the Netherlands? Wow, that's really cool.

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MattLabMyLove wrote:
You get TVLand over in the Netherlands? Wow, that's really cool.

Beckie

I WISH!!! No, we don't get it over here bawling I saw it on their website
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OIC. I think I saw it on there too after seeing it on tv. They have a lot of clips from their shows on there.

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Yeah it's neat! Thumbsup
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MattLabMyLove wrote:
Wow you have a great eye. I never noticed. Haha, it's funny to think about.

There is a scene from Bonanza where Little Joe falls of a cliff. It is so a dummy. It's all floppy and stuff as it's falling, lol.

Beckie

I've seen that falling dummy, too! :haha:


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I have noticed this as well.....I love how they think they are fooling us...but I suppose back then...they did! lol
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LM wrote:
Has anyone notice that in "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style", that it looks like Laura's fighting with a mannequin for a half a second? Just before Caroline comes outside to break up the fight, there's a very, very quick facial shot of Brenda Sue as she's on top of Laura. Brenda Sue's face looks hard, expressionless...just blank, and not life-like at all, to me. So I figure it must be a mannequin. During all of the rest of the fight scene, it looks like the actress playing Brenda Sue is really doing her own scene.

I've often wondered why a mannequin for such a short shot, but I figure that the actress may not have been there during a second, third or whatever take, and they used the mannequin.

----

I read someplace here that Katherine McGregor rode a little during the scene when she was on the runaway horse, and then a stunt man did the harder stuff. But I've watched the scene where "she" falls off and it always looks like a mannequin. It falls like one, it's stiff like one. No expression or anything that's life-like.

I've watched both of these scenes on slow-mo and I still say... mannequin.

Your thoughts?

Wave


I haven't seem those clips,That I can't remember.
But on "School Mom" When Miss Beadles horse is sceard,and it runs off.And she falls off,It looks like her,and really painful,lol.Did she do that stunt herself? I think it is her.....?
It's a wonder she didn't hurt herself for real,lol.

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I read somewhere here on the forum that it was a stuntman who really fell, but I say...it really, really looks like she did it herself.


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This may be the episode you are talking about where Katherine MacGregor falls and gets hurt......... batEyes

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Episode 78; Season 4
December 5, 1977

Trivia note: Harriet Oleson on a horse is a rare occasion indeed, and it turned out badly! When she fell off the horse at the end of this episode, it was no classic Hollywood stunt. "Katherine MacGregor fell very badly!", remembers Charlotte Stewart, "and she had to be taken to the hospital."

Although she injured her back and kidneys, "during it all, her sense of humor never faltered." On screen, Charlotte says, "the beginning of the fall was Katherine, but by the time Mrs. Oleson hit the ground it was the stunt double."

As usual, in such circumstances, it was Ruth Foster who was called to the rescue. "It was later in the afternoon", remembers Ruth, "and the last day to shoot the complete show. So they got me dressed as Mrs. Oleson as fast as they could and they shot all from the back of me and Nels. And saved the episode because the actor in the scene was leaving in a few hours to go back to New York and they would have lost the actor and couldn't have had finish of the episode."


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PostSubject: Re: "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man   Grove - "Divorce, Walnut Grove Style" - Laura fights a man EmptyThu Jun 28, 2007 6:56 pm

Yes...It looks as a mannequin, and it is not impossible it was. The shoot SEEMS to be short for us, but I suppose that when they were running the scene, it lasted very long, and they must also have EDITED it.

It's pretty common they would use a mannequin in these kind of shoots.

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Rhonda wrote:
This may be the episode you are talking about where Katherine MacGregor falls and gets hurt......... batEyes

Here Comes the Brides
Episode 78; Season 4
December 5, 1977

Trivia note: Harriet Oleson on a horse is a rare occasion indeed, and it turned out badly! When she fell off the horse at the end of this episode, it was no classic Hollywood stunt. "Katherine MacGregor fell very badly!", remembers Charlotte Stewart, "and she had to be taken to the hospital."

Although she injured her back and kidneys, "during it all, her sense of humor never faltered." On screen, Charlotte says, "the beginning of the fall was Katherine, but by the time Mrs. Oleson hit the ground it was the stunt double."

As usual, in such circumstances, it was Ruth Foster who was called to the rescue. "It was later in the afternoon", remembers Ruth, "and the last day to shoot the complete show. So they got me dressed as Mrs. Oleson as fast as they could and they shot all from the back of me and Nels. And saved the episode because the actor in the scene was leaving in a few hours to go back to New York and they would have lost the actor and couldn't have had finish of the episode."

OMG , it's a good thing she survived! If you get punched in the kidneys, you can die instantly! :unsure:

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I never notice any of these things I wish I would. Next time I see these episodes. I will for sure watch carefully! :shifty:


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I always start out watching certain episodes, thinking that I'll try to catch the bloopers people have mentioned. But I get so caught up in the show, that I forget to watch for a blooper. Huh?
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Me too! I'm really bad at seeing these things. Sometimes I catch these "logical" things, but usually not even those...
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this was a good episode! sad for Laura, but still good. though I certainly do not like Brenda Sue's character! Laura really showed who she was when she got into a fight with Brenda Sue!
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I did not like Brenda Sue's character right from the beginning. it seemed like she acted too close to Almanzo, even after she met Laura, his wife!
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