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littlehouselover Walnut Grove Resident
Number of posts : 1064
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:46 pm | |
| That is so odd, why cut out scenes for no particular reason? I can see in questionable movies where they think it's stretching an R rating, things like that, but these scenes were his best work. They did have them once didn't they? I remember them, or am I just remembering the original show? I remember waiting for that part and not seeing it last time I watched it. | |
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jes9 Walnut Grove Resident
Number of posts : 1066 Location : Cincinnati, OH
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:36 pm | |
| It's absolutely inexcusable that they cut out these scenes from the American DVDs. I feel cheated. | |
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Kristina Ingalls Friend for Life
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| Subject: Re: Family Tree Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:00 pm | |
| I watched this episode this morning, after not seeing it for awhile. It's such a sad episode, but so happy at the ending too. I can't believe that scenes were cut from it! | |
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Davetucson Ingalls Friend for Life
Number of posts : 9374 Location : Helena, Alabama Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:18 pm | |
| Pretty frustrating having to watch it in German...... "Albert, do you REALLY think you are old enough to know what love is?" "I must be Pa. I love you, I have for a long time." | |
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julmer70 Ingalls Friend for Life
Number of posts : 3301 Location : Miami, FL Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:34 am | |
| I just made a HUGE mistake and went over to the imdb board just to lurk. I occasionally go over there to see if things have changed a little, and of course, it hasn't. Anyway, there's someone over there named sparky182 and he/she posts episode reviews every week. Now he/she posted his/her review of "Family Tree." All I'm going to say is, that review had me fuming! To belittle such a fabulous episode is beyond me! | |
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LauraIngallsfan "Psalm 73"
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Davetucson Ingalls Friend for Life
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LauraIngallsfan "Psalm 73"
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julmer70 Ingalls Friend for Life
Number of posts : 3301 Location : Miami, FL Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:03 am | |
| Albert had excellent acting in every episode. He's amazing. To this day, he still blows me away! | |
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Davetucson Ingalls Friend for Life
Number of posts : 9374 Location : Helena, Alabama Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:04 am | |
| Yes he did......He and Melissa had some great scenes together.....Some of the best writing came into play when Caroline or Charles had conversations with those kids.....
"Albert, do you REALLY think you are old enough to know what love is?" "I must be Pa. I love you, I have for a long time." | |
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LauraIngallsfan "Psalm 73"
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whitelighter New Pioneer
Number of posts : 77
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:24 am | |
| There should've been a follow-up scene between Albert & Simon at school the second day . If whippings were, in fact, much more common in those days (which I'm not convinced of) things might not have been too awkward between them, but Albert still probably should've apologized for getting Simon in trouble, and over-reacting to what Simon said. And maybe Albert should've tried, in subtle ways, to make it up to Simon. What do other think? | |
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Davetucson Ingalls Friend for Life
Number of posts : 9374 Location : Helena, Alabama Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:40 am | |
| - whitelighter wrote:
- There should've been a follow-up scene between Albert & Simon at school the second day . If whippings were, in fact, much more common in those days (which I'm not convinced of) things might not have been too awkward between them, but Albert still probably should've apologized for getting Simon in trouble, and over-reacting to what Simon said. And maybe Albert should've tried, in subtle ways, to make it up to Simon. What do other think?
I really don't share your opinion about Albert apologizing to Simon. He certainly didn't force him to go fishing. Albert reacted to being called a bas#$%^ because of the pressure he felt with the family tree thing. Knowing he had to do that project, with all of the heckling he took from the other kids per his conversation in the loft with Charles, simply put him over the top. It was obvious he was hurting inside, and when Simon called him that, he reacted. And I can't much blame him. I don't think he had anything to make up to Simon. Quite frankly, a follow up scene with Simon apologizing to Albert would have been appropriate in my mind. The dream scenes of Albert having the nightmares, fully demonstrated what kind of stress he was going through. And when you watch that, you have to ask yourself just how much was he suppose to put up with. You may not be convinced that whippings were common, but they were absolutely were, right up until the 1960's. The teachers in my high school regularly administered corporal punishment on a daily basis, with the full blessings of the parents. That's just the way it was. I'm sure that if you talked to a lot of people in my age bracket, they would confirm that for you. And there were several indications of it in Little House. Nels taking the belt upstairs, Charles telling Peter in "The Stranger" that he was going to spank his bottom. Jonathon taking Andy to the barn in "The Cheaters". James getting whipped in "The Lost Ones". If you disobeyed your parents back then, it wasn't complicated, you simply got punished. Plain and simple. I do share your opinion about an extra scene. I wish that instead of a long shot at the end, they would have showed Albert and Laura being reunited when Albert came home from being adopted. That would have been a nice ending......Lord knows, they both cried enough when they thought they were losing each other. "Albert, do you REALLY think you are old enough to know what love is?" "I must be Pa. I love you, I have for a long time." | |
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Shell Farm Land Owner
Number of posts : 1353 Location : Indiana Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:35 am | |
| I liked how Albert used his smart mind to fake being blind so he wouldn't have to go live with his real father. I'm surprised Mr. Quinn didn't ask Charles why Albert's "blindness" wasn't mentioned when he came to get Albert. | |
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LauraIngallsfan "Psalm 73"
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whitelighter New Pioneer
Number of posts : 77
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:29 pm | |
| - Davetucson wrote:
- whitelighter wrote:
- Quite frankly, a follow up scene with Simon apologizing to Albert would have been appropriate in my mind.
You mean in addition to the apology Simon already gave?: "I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything by it. It won't happen again. I promise." I don't quite follow your reasoning but you're entitled to your opinon.[/quote] | |
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Davetucson Ingalls Friend for Life
Number of posts : 9374 Location : Helena, Alabama Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:13 am | |
| - whitelighter wrote:
- Davetucson wrote:
- whitelighter wrote:
- Quite frankly, a follow up scene with Simon apologizing to Albert would have been appropriate in my mind.
You mean in addition to the apology Simon already gave?: "I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything by it. It won't happen again. I promise."
I don't quite follow your reasoning but you're entitled to your opinon. We have a disagreement on exactly who was wronged, but then again, we aren't discussing world hunger.......And you are certainly entitled to your opinion also.......I am always impressed by someone who analyzes scenes................ and for that, I applaud you. "Albert, do you REALLY think you are old enough to know what love is?" "I must be Pa. I love you, I have for a long time." | |
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Shell Farm Land Owner
Number of posts : 1353 Location : Indiana Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:30 am | |
| I was just thinking about the episode. I am wondering if Albert's mother had died and someone else had taken Albert to the orphanage or what ever happened to his mother. | |
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Davetucson Ingalls Friend for Life
Number of posts : 9374 Location : Helena, Alabama Mood :
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:44 am | |
| According to records found in the 1900's, Albert's Mother died of heartbreak several years after Jeremy Quinn took Albert to an orphanage in Pierre, South Dakota......Albert had One Brother, Jason. He was 16 years old when Albert was born. Albert was about one year old, when Jeremy, due to hard times, took him away to give him up to the orphanage.
Jason, who idolized his little brother, left home in a desperate attempt to get Albert out of the orphanage and return him to Olney. Unfortunately, one of the worst Blizzards of the century occurred while Jason was travelling to Pierre. He was never heard from again. One can only guess how the course of history would have been changed if Jason would have lived.
"Albert, do you REALLY think you are old enough to know what love is?" "I must be Pa. I love you, I have for a long time." | |
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whitelighter New Pioneer
Number of posts : 77
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:15 am | |
| - Davetucson wrote:
- I really don't share your opinion about Albert apologizing to Simon. He certainly didn't force him to go fishing. Albert reacted to being called a bas#$%^ because of the pressure he felt with the family tree thing. Knowing he had to do that project, with all of the heckling he took from the other kids per his conversation in the loft with Charles, simply put him over the top. It was obvious he was hurting inside, and when Simon called him that, he reacted. And I can't much blame him. I don't think he had anything to make up to Simon. Quite frankly, a follow up scene with Simon apologizing to Albert would have been appropriate in my mind.
But Albert's anger was directed at all the kids, not Simon specifically. By the time the fight in the pond it was winding down, it was clear that Simon hadn't used the term in derogatorily. Albert's pent-up anger may have been justified; taking it out on Simon was not. Simon apologized to Albert at the pond so I see no reason for another apology from him, especially after paying dearly for his actions with a severe whipping to boot. Yes, Simon should've listened to his Pa, but I still think Albert should've felt a little bad for the role he played in Simon getting in trouble, especially after realizing Simon hand't mean to insult him. | |
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amyk Frontier Traveler
Number of posts : 558
| Subject: Re: Family Tree Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:19 pm | |
| I watched this on COZI-TV and they have so many commercials that I believe something significant was cut out.....how did Albert know his biological dad only wanted to use him as a farmhand???
I thought maybe Albert would beg Simon's dad to stop whipping Simon, based on the flashback Albert was having.
I am curious as to how or why Albert ended up in that orphanage. I also think that an episode which contrasted the apparently hypocritical so-called religious aspect of that orphanage with the sincere Christian faith of Revd. Alden would have been interesting. I could see Albert not even wanting to go to church with the Ingalls family if he had been so mistreated by someone in the name of religion as he apparently was in that orphanage, with the man talking about cleansing his soul as they almost seem to try to drown Albert in the water! | |
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