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PostSubject: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyMon Feb 23, 2009 7:00 pm

I'm not sure if I liked this episode. I understand why Laura helped Mr Edwards, after all he had done for her when she was younger, but I don't understand why she did after what happened with Albert. even with what happened with Albert (I'm glad he was okay!) I do have to say that this episode taught a good lesson on loyalty
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyThu May 07, 2009 11:34 pm

....and forgiveness and friendship.
Charles was wrong to turn his back I thought.
Loved how Charles came back in the end and asked for forgiveness.
Drink will tear some people apart and I thought this was a great story of the power of will power over addiction.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyFri May 08, 2009 12:24 pm

I enjoyed this episode, except that Brian Part and Bonnie Bartlett weren't in it.  John's death hit Isaiah hard and he turned to drinking--as he had in the past--to drown his sorrow.  I don't think Charles could help how he felt.  As a parent I might act the same; but Laura's compassion for Isaiah was crucial to his ability to heal and move on.  Perhaps she was able to do this because it involved two people she loved very much and couldn't choose between them.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyFri May 08, 2009 1:43 pm

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I don't think Charles could help how he felt. As I parent I might act the same;

I totally agree. I haven't seen the episode in years - but thinking about it in modern terms . . . .If a friend of mine got drunk, and drove a vehicle with one of my precious nieces or nephews in it, crashed the vehicle and nearly killed them?? That would not be an easy thing to forgive, no matter how dear that friend was. Pa's love for Isaiah eventually allowed him to be able to mend that friendship, but he had a lot of pain and anger to work through before being able to forgive Isaiah and that kind of thing takes time. I can't agree that Charles was wrong in what he did - I think that he was just very human, and had the heart of a loving father. I think if Isaiah had accidentally injured Charles, that forgiveness wouldn't have been nearly as difficult in coming - but one of the hardest things in the world to bear is to see someone you love hurt, especially if that someone is a child.
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyWed Mar 10, 2010 7:08 am

A wonderful episode. I am on the fence on if Charles was wrong or not.
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptySun Jul 11, 2010 4:53 pm

When the Ingalls' & Wilder's were at the Christening, Carrie & Cassandra didn't sit together, James, Cassandra & Grace sat together & Albert & Carrie sat together.
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:20 am

I think Charles WAS wrong. I'm not saying that I would act differently of he did.Maybe not. But he was wrong. If Jesus could forgive hiw own murders, I think we can forgive the person who hurt accidentally one of our beloved ones...

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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:02 pm

What would've happened if Mr. Edwards caused Pa's accident
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:49 pm

I think Charles had a very human reaction. He SAID he wanted Isaiah to "go away", but what deep down he meant is for the alcoholism to go away. It was the problem that caused a good man to choose unwisely.
Vanessa, you had a good point in showing how Jesus forgave those that were killing him. Its so hard today to see that we have to do the same to be Christ like.
In, Charles' situation he needed to put space between himself and his dear friend. Sometimes that is best for awhile.
I agree Cheryl, Laura wanted peace and she knew she didn't want to loose Mr. Edwards. She had to try. In this case it worked with love and patience.
Another great episode on how what we put into our bodies can sometimes make us into what we don't want to be.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 1:26 am

Yes, Gin. You are right. Charles reaction is very human. I think I should act in the same way he did, even if I know I'm wrong. No

The problem is that we tends to forget that alcoholism is a sickness, and that the person who is an alcoholic is not responsible for what he/she does. We don't realize it and we uses to treat the alcoholic as if he/she really knows what he/she is doing. They are not able to know they are acting wrong. That's the cause for they deserves all our attention, love and compassion. Laura understod it very well. When Mr. Edwards drove that chariot badly and caused Albert's accident he didn't know what he was doing...He was not Mr. Edwards any more. Alcoholism was killing his personnality. I know what I'm speaking about, since I have a case of alcoholism in my own family. Believe me: a great person becomes a monster when he becomes drunk. You can barely recognize him/her.The bad thing is that people tend to judge this person as if he/she was sober... Blue

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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyFri Jul 30, 2010 12:03 pm

What if Cassandra became afraid of Mr.Edwards?
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyFri Jul 30, 2010 1:04 pm

ham wrote:
What if Cassandra became afraid of Mr.Edwards?

Then she'd be afraid of Mr. Edwards!.... and cry!


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyFri Jul 30, 2010 1:18 pm

Yes, I wrote a story about what would've happened if Cassandra skipped the christening
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptySat Sep 04, 2010 9:21 pm

Savannah wrote:
bethandmanly wrote:
I don't think Charles could help how he felt. As I parent I might act the same;

I totally agree. I haven't seen the episode in years - but thinking about it in modern terms . . . .If a friend of mine got drunk, and drove a vehicle with one of my precious nieces or nephews in it, crashed the vehicle and nearly killed them?? That would not be an easy thing to forgive, no matter how dear that friend was. Pa's love for Isaiah eventually allowed him to be able to mend that friendship, but he had a lot of pain and anger to work through before being able to forgive Isaiah and that kind of thing takes time. I can't agree that Charles was wrong in what he did - I think that he was just very human, and had the heart of a loving father. I think if Isaiah had accidentally injured Charles, that forgiveness wouldn't have been nearly as difficult in coming - but one of the hardest things in the world to bear is to see someone you love hurt, especially if that someone is a child.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyThu Mar 10, 2011 10:33 am

liked this one..Think it was a good one!!


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyFri Mar 02, 2012 11:59 pm

I thought this episode was good.......


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 2:37 pm

Wrong? Right? This story was about forgiveness......It's pretty obvious that Charles knew he was wrong, he asked Edwards to forgive him. That was the whole point of the story..Charles was human....Albert was severely injured.....Anyone would react the same way.......
I'm surprised Charles didn't get more physical than he did with Edwards. Charles could get pretty testy when it came to the kids.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 4:37 pm

Davetucson wrote:
Wrong? Right? This story was about forgiveness......It's pretty obvious that Charles knew he was wrong, he asked Edwards to forgive him. That was the whole point of the story..Charles was human....Albert was severely injured.....Anyone would react the same way.......
I'm surprised Charles didn't get more physical than he did with Edwards. Charles could get pretty testy when it came to the kids.


Yes.You can understand him for getting upset. but least they made up in the end.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyThu Mar 08, 2012 9:34 pm

I'm trying to remember....is this the episode where Grace leaves Isaiah and takes the two children away with her to get remarried.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyWed Mar 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Grace kicked Isaiah out because of his drinking. She wrote to him telling him she filed for divorce and met another man.
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyWed Mar 14, 2012 9:40 pm

I wish they could have stayed together.I guess i don't blame grace.


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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyTue Jul 17, 2012 6:01 am

I think this show was pretty accurate. Alcohol and other addictions can be pretty strong and Mr. Edwards always liked his drink. He once asked Grace why she married him, she knew how he was (when he had was sneaking off to a saloon) and she said because she loved him.
You would think, as much as he loved all his children, Alicia wrapping herself around his heart, Carl, so much wanting to be like him, he'd do anything to be with them...but I've seen so many people destroy what they loved, selling out to the bottle or drug.
It angered me when I first watched it, I thought the writers made him evil, but even if Mr. Landon had a beef with him about going onto another show and writing him off for a while, what they wrote wasn't unbelievable.

On as side note I found it every weird to see the woman who played "Ellen's" mom as Mrs. Edwards. She had a more stern tone about her too.
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PostSubject: Re: A Promise To Keep   A Promise To Keep EmptyMon Jul 05, 2021 10:00 pm

This one is so good.....except I really hate the stuff about Grace filing for divorce, especially when it has not even been very long at all (apparently) since she kicked Isaiah out of the house. I think that the writers should have had Grace and the kids also move back to Walnut Grove after Isaiah stopped his drinking. And even if they had to have Grace file for divorce, I think having this new man in her life is way too fast and totally unnecessary. They could have just had Grace file for divorce but not have this new man.

But apart from the Grace stuff, the rest of the episode is so excellent. I think it is so good to show how Isaiah was in bondage to the alcohol even though he didn't really want to be and how his addiction hurt so many people. Was this the start of Albert's morphine addiction, too, since Doc Baker gave him morphine for the pain?

My favorite part, though, is when Isaiah goes to the church and prays and then the heart-to-heart with Revd. Alden. And so neat that Revd. Alden actually had been an alcoholic himself. I wonder what he meant that he lost everything? Was he married before and had a family??
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