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I didn't read it, but someone reviewed it and allowed me to post that review on my blog. You can find it at http://lauralittlehouseontheprairie.blogspot.com/2008/07/nellie-oleson-meets-laura-ingalls-by.html


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I finally got this book from the library, and so far it is interesting. I thought it would be based off the Nellie of the TV series, but it isn't. In the book, Nellie's real name is Danielle Oleson (so I guess Nellie is a nickname) and her parents are William and Margaret. But, she calls Laura and Mary 'country girls' on their first day at school, just like in the show.
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I'd never heard of it.   Sounds very interesting
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The true Nellie Oleson was made from Laura's combination of 3 girls from school.  The girls were Nellie Owen, Genevieve Masters, and Stella Gilbert.  I think this story is a combination of Laura's real life and the TV show life of Laura.... scratchead

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"Nellie Oleson

Nellie Oleson is Laura's rival, and is a character in On the Banks of Plum Creek, Little Town on the Prairie, and These Happy Golden Years. The character of Nellie Oleson is actually three different girls combined into one.
Nellie Owens was a year younger than Laura, and had a younger brother named Willie, just as the character of Nellie did in the books. Her parents, William and Margaret Owens, did run a local mercantile in Walnut Grove. Nellie is the primary basis for Nellie Oleson in On the Banks of Plum Creek.

Genevieve Masters was the spoiled daughter of Laura's teacher in Walnut Grove. Genny wore pretty clothes, and had beautiful golden ringlets, just as "Nellie Oleson" did. Nellie Owens and Genny Masters were in a constant battle to rule the playground, and all the younger girls were forced to take sides. Laura, however, refused and soon became the leader of them all.

Genny's family moved to De Smet not long after the Ingalls family, but the Owens family did not. Therefore, the Nellie of Little Town on the Prairie is mainly Genny Masters.

The third girl making up the character of Nellie Oleson was Stella Gilbert, a poor girl who lived on a claim near De Smet. Though poor, she was beautiful, and she had her eye on Almanzo. She did manage to beguile him into taking her on several buggy rides with him, told of in These Happy Golden Years, but when Almanzo was made aware of her shallowness, the rides stopped.

Not much is known about what happened to Genny and Stella in later life; Laura herself was uncertain. Nellie Owens moved to California, and then on to Oregon, where she married Henry Kirry and had three children, Zola, Lloyd, and Leslie. Her brother Willie went blind from a firecracker explosion, attended a school for the blind, married, and also had three children. Laura wrote to some fans that Nellie moved to Louisiana, and to others that she returned to New York. It is possible that she was referring to Genny Masters and Stella Gilbert in these letters."


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very interesting- thank you for sharing that Rhonda! I think I knew that there was never really a 'real' Nellie Oleson, that she was based off of someone, but I didn't know that much about the subject.

I guess the three girls that were combined to make up the Nellie Oleson of Laura Ingalls Wilder's books are proof of the saying that says you should tend to watch yourself around a writer or else you could wind up as a bad guy in their books Whistle
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I had no idea Either.


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Thanks for that Rhonda.......Interesting reading......


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Just shows you the imagination of LIW. She truly was a creative writer and knew how to keep a child's interest in telling a story.


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Yeah Nellie olsen seemed more mean in the show then the books


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Rhonda wrote:
The true Nellie Oleson was made from Laura's combination of 3 girls from school.  The girls were Nellie Owen, Genevieve Masters, and Stella Gilbert.  I think this story is a combination of Laura's real life and the TV show life of Laura.... scratchead

From the Frontier Girl site:  
Nellie Oleson

"Nellie Oleson

Nellie Oleson is Laura's rival, and is a character in On the Banks of Plum Creek, Little Town on the Prairie, and These Happy Golden Years. The character of Nellie Oleson is actually three different girls combined into one.
Nellie Owens was a year younger than Laura, and had a younger brother named Willie, just as the character of Nellie did in the books. Her parents, William and Margaret Owens, did run a local mercantile in Walnut Grove. Nellie is the primary basis for Nellie Oleson in On the Banks of Plum Creek.

Genevieve Masters was the spoiled daughter of Laura's teacher in Walnut Grove. Genny wore pretty clothes, and had beautiful golden ringlets, just as "Nellie Oleson" did. Nellie Owens and Genny Masters were in a constant battle to rule the playground, and all the younger girls were forced to take sides. Laura, however, refused and soon became the leader of them all.

Genny's family moved to De Smet not long after the Ingalls family, but the Owens family did not. Therefore, the Nellie of Little Town on the Prairie is mainly Genny Masters.

The third girl making up the character of Nellie Oleson was Stella Gilbert, a poor girl who lived on a claim near De Smet. Though poor, she was beautiful, and she had her eye on Almanzo. She did manage to beguile him into taking her on several buggy rides with him, told of in These Happy Golden Years, but when Almanzo was made aware of her shallowness, the rides stopped.

Not much is known about what happened to Genny and Stella in later life; Laura herself was uncertain. Nellie Owens moved to California, and then on to Oregon, where she married Henry Kirry and had three children, Zola, Lloyd, and Leslie. Her brother Willie went blind from a firecracker explosion, attended a school for the blind, married, and also had three children. Laura wrote to some fans that Nellie moved to Louisiana, and to others that she returned to New York. It is possible that she was referring to Genny Masters and Stella Gilbert in these letters."

I found this neat picture of the REAL Owens' Family, Willie, Nellie and their father, William. This Nellie is 1/3 of the trio of girls that is mentioned in the above quote that made up the Nellie Oleson in the LIW books.

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Very interesting, Ronda! I have never seen that photo before.


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I don't think I've ever seen it either. Thanks for posting.


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