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reading some of the posts by other people, I've seen that Sylvia dies. not to spoil it when I watch this episode, but how does Sylvia die?

It's been a while since I've seen this episode, but I believe Sylvia falls off a ladder trying to escape her attacker and dies after suffering internal injuries in the fall.

I like the episode,but wish she had lived. If anyone died,in my opinion it should of been the rapist.

The rapist does die, FanofLHOTP1. I don't think he survived the gunshot.

One of my all time favorite episodes even though it is sad and disturbing.

I'm with you I like this episode. It is disturbing, but it shows what girls of that time period dealt with. I do wish she and Albert had married. It would have been good to see how those so young dealt with marriage. Olivia was a very good actress with Matt.

They probably felt that the relationship between the characters would have been far too exhausted if they had married. It was a very interesting tease though which successfully kept us engrossed in the story.

[b]This is not really my fav esp..very sad..I don't like the girls father, he was so mean......[b]

It is cool how they made him more human toward the end. And heroic that he shoots the villain.

It's on Hallmark tonight. I can't wait! The actress that plays Sylvia is absolutely stunning. Whatever became of her?

easyt72000 wrote:

It's on Hallmark tonight. I can't wait! The actress that plays Sylvia is absolutely stunning. Whatever became of her?

She's still acting here and there. You can read more about her at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000848/ I wouldn't have recognized her by the recent photos.

WHAT A MIND BLOWER!! The episode begins with some great humor and right when you get comfortable, it slugs you in the gut. Then keeps slugging. Its rare that tv shocks me, I'm a bit jaded but I will remember this episode.
I wish I wouldn't have read this thread before seeing the episode. The women of this board seem to not like it, while the men have an opposite view. Chalk that up to a fundimental difference between the sexes, I suppose, but this was a daring and effective hour of tv.
I think it works because men are hardwired to 'protect' women and in this episode we feel impotent to do anything to protect Sylvia, we are mere by-standers. But we WANT to help, and in our man brains, the emotions rise because we (perhaps subconsciously) realize we as helpless as Syvia is.
The female may view this episode in a more personal manner because they have experienced rape or fear of it. The subject is too close, too personal that negative emotions well up and distaste for the subject predominates.

One of my favorite episodes because it doesn't sugarcoat.

Not my favorite episode. But, I did watch it again. The only favorite part I like this episode. Is when Carloine throws bread dough at Harriet. I'll have done the same thing.

I don't understand, why her Mr. Webb, went looking for the rapists. Instead, of having Sylvia hiding it. When, she was scared of the boys or Albert just touching her. Maybe, it was different back then, than today.

I was molested, when I was 15. By a 16 year old boy. (Sometimes, still difficult talk about it.)

Buttercup wrote:

I don't understand, why her Mr. Webb, went looking for the rapists. Instead, of having Sylvia hiding it. When, she was scared of the boys or Albert just touching her. Maybe, it was different back then, than today.

You mean, why he decided to blame Sylvia instead of seeking justice for her? That always bugged me too. I was talking about it the other day on a Dr. Quinn forum because there is an episode where a young girl is raped and the father is only concerned with making sure his daughter is okay. She is so traumatized over the incident she stops speaking and he ends up taking her away to family in another state.

Why did Mr. Webb think Sylvia was to blame? Whatever gave him such a silly idea?

bethandmanly wrote:

Buttercup wrote:

I don't understand, why her Mr. Webb, went looking for the rapists. Instead, of having Sylvia hiding it. When, she was scared of the boys or Albert just touching her. Maybe, it was different back then, than today.

You mean, why he decided to blame Sylvia instead of seeking justice for her? That always bugged me too. I was talking about it the other day on a Dr. Quinn forum because there is an episode where a young girl is raped and the father is only concerned with making sure his daughter is okay. She is so traumatized over the incident she stops speaking and he ends up taking her away to family in another state.

Why did Mr. Webb think Sylvia was to blame? Whatever gave him such a silly idea?

Yes, that's what I mean. If, I was him, I want justice. Find out who raped his daughter. She didn't do nothing wrong. Maybe, different back then, than today society.

Buttercup wrote:

bethandmanly wrote:

Buttercup wrote:

I don't understand, why her Mr. Webb, went looking for the rapists. Instead, of having Sylvia hiding it. When, she was scared of the boys or Albert just touching her. Maybe, it was different back then, than today.

You mean, why he decided to blame Sylvia instead of seeking justice for her? That always bugged me too. I was talking about it the other day on a Dr. Quinn forum because there is an episode where a young girl is raped and the father is only concerned with making sure his daughter is okay. She is so traumatized over the incident she stops speaking and he ends up taking her away to family in another state.

Why did Mr. Webb think Sylvia was to blame? Whatever gave him such a silly idea?

Yes, that's what I mean. If, I was him, I want justice. Find out who raped his daughter. She didn't do nothing wrong. Maybe, different back then, than today society.

I guess it would depend on the family, much like it does today. I just don't like that the writers decided to take the episode in that direction. It worked well for the Albert/Sylvia storyline, but I didn't like it anyway.

This episode seems to dark for little house.this is not one i can watch too often.

As a child I watched this episode and I really couldn't comprehend it. I didn't understand what happened to her. I only knew something bad was done by that man in the mask. I think although ML was dealing with a heavy issue like some others, this one was very confusing to children. Especially if you didn't know anything about rape or even se*, this gave the impression that "hey if it happened to her, it could happen to you". I don't think it was necessary to include this issue in a children's show. I know I could understand some of the other heavy topics like drug abuse or physical abuse as it could be simpified. But, if a child has not been taught yet about the "birds and bees", this was too confusing and scary. I have children of my own now and I would not encourage them to watch this episode until they were old enough to understand. In my opinion this was an adult topic for an adult show, it wasn't just r*pe, it was repeated molestation of a child. And it also implied that if you tell on the person who did it to you, you are going to get in trouble. This is too heavy a topic for young children to take in. And, I'm not saying that it doesn't have a place, just not on a children's show.

I agree liz.That's true.

Interesting points. I first saw this episode at the age of 12. It was somewhat confusing yet very exciting and eventually became one of my favorite episodes of the entire series.

Not a favorite episode of mine.......I did not like the whole theme of this episode

I don't watch the episode that much. It's kind of creepy. I can't believe how mean her father was. He blamed her when Willie, Albert and those 2 other boys tried peeking at her through her bedroom window and when she was attacked.

I, too am surprised the citizens of Walnut Grove didn't burn the black smith sign that had Mr.Hatrwig's name on it. They should have. I can't believe the awful name Sylvia's father called her. He blamed her for her attack.

The only other reasonable suspects to be the rapist were the two boys hanging with Albert and Willie because they were not regulars.

I'm watching it now, but I'm not sure I'll finish. I think it's too dark for a LHOP show. Maybe, even with the darkness if they didn't conveniently kill her, I would have liked it more, but it was so "pat". A miscarriage would have sufficed and then moving to get her away. It was such a dark part for a young girl to play.
The father and Harriet acted like her development was unusual...she couldn't have been the first young woman to start blossoming in school. It's a normal process and she wasn't dressed inappropriately.

It was a sin in a sense to be not "innocent" as a woman and many lied as some do today in some countries. It's really sad. I'm not sure what Michael Landon wanted as the point, to tell and not be scared...but it was so depressing, no resolution really, no hope.

Iread somewhere that NBC didn't want to air the episode and that Michael demanded it be shown.